There is no reference to the Reynolds quote, so it is not really relevant to the article. In the Best Picture-winner, starring Paul Newman and Robert Redford, Durning won distinction as a crooked cop, Lt. Wm. More memorably, I had a great day hanging out talking World War II with him. He was a great actor with a LOT of fascinating tales to tell. He was one of the military masterminds of The Invasion of Normandy that also landed at Omaha Beach. The current article, which avoids all discussion of these questions of fact, appears dedicated to burnishing and protecting his image, which seems a POV violation. --rogerd 12:35, 27 December 2006 (UTC), I will put an {{NPOV}} template at the top of the page. the men in the pasture, and the other men who escaped the massacre because for one or other reason they were not at the crossroads when and where they were supposed to be when the massacre occured (I think for instance to a man the artillery observer battalion who had been left in Malmedy because he suddenly fell ill: he escaped the massacre but is not a survivor). His father was an Irish immigrant and his mother was of Irish descent. I wonder whether it might be able to get some rock solid sources on this. 386th Anti Aircraft Artillery Automatic Weapons Battalion (semi-mobile). By June 17 he was back in England at the 217th General Hospital. Although he displayed a passion for entertaining others, a high school teacher told him that he was talentless in art, language, and math and was better suited to working in an office. I've received the docs from Oldbubblehead (tnx!) We were frightened all the time. In any case, recovered soldiers were returned to units of their original branch. I have known of Charles Durning as an accomplished actor for many years. I'm beginning to wonder about the veracity of Mr Durning's World War II story. He scored minor roles over the next decade until he really got noticed by film fans as the sneering, corrupt cop "Lt. Snyder" hassling street grifter 'Robert Redford' in the multi award winning mega-hit The Sting (1973). It does say that he was a survivor of the Malmedy Massacre. Other film credits include Dog Day Afternoon with Al Pacino; When A Stranger Calls; The Final Countdown; The Hindenburg; Twilight's Last Gleaming with Burt Lancaster; True Confessions with Robert De Niro and Robert Duvall. We'll never know the whole story of his war years.I used to hear the difference between a "sea story" and a fairy tale was a fairy . Which is strange. Monkeyzpop (talk) 01:53, 16 October 2011 (UTC), we all have watched the cuban crime rags to ritches film with al pacino , i am personnely convinced that charles durning done a voice over for an emigration officer at the early stages of the film watch the start and the questions about the tattoo ,,,,if this is not charles durning voice then im an aardvaark. ", The Charles Durning Collection is held at the Academy Film Archive. He was 89. Can we really exclude that the speach could have writen by a lazzy (or gullible) employee who could simply have made a copy/paste of what he had found on a website without making any check? No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Durning is not listed. That place that no one knows about horrifying things we keep secret. Also, the alleged false statement was the Durning was the 2nd most decorated soldier of WWII, which Monkeyzpop disputes. But it should be possible to ask them whether they have kept a record of this speach. [10] Additional awards included the Army Good Conduct Medal, the American Campaign Medal and the European-African-Middle Eastern Campaign Medal with Arrowhead device and two bronze service stars, and the World War II Victory Medal. Born in Highland Falls, N.Y., adjacent to the U.S. Military Academy at West Point, where his mother was a laundress for the cadets and his father a Soldier, Durning was the fourth of 10 children.. I do belive that the edit should stand, however. [14], Durning died of natural causes at his home in Manhattan on Christmas Eve December 24, 2012, aged 89. He appeared on the FX television series Rescue Me, playing Mike Gavin, the retired firefighter father of Denis Leary's character. Kaspazes talk 13:00, 29 December 2006 (UTC), User:Monkeyzpop has made an edit to this article about some statement that Burt Reynolds supposedly made on a TV show, that he is disputing. He worked with the Coen Brothers again playing "Pappy" O'Daniel, a cynical governor of Mississippi (a character loosely based on the Texas politician and showman W. Lee O'Daniel) in the Coen Brothers' O Brother, Where Art Thou? Cheers.InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 05:27, 5 September 2017 (UTC), There's no reason to display the medals or decorations he is said to have received. Durning married his second wife, Mary Ann Amelio, in 1974. It is possible that a riflemen might be reclassified as a driver due to the extent of his injuries and be given limited duties in a FAOB, so it is not inconceivable, but the point here is that there needs to be some reliable evidence. Charles Edward Durning (February 28, 1923 - December 24, 2012) was an American actor, with appearances in over 200 movies, television shows and plays. View more newsletters on our Subscriptions page. the Battle of the Bulge and was one of few survivors of the Malmedy massacre, Durning earned two Oscar and nine . It contains a roster, list of decorations awarded, and some information on landing craft assignments. On the other hand I am far from being convinced that the fact this would have been said by the French consul (if it was the case) make it the revealed truth. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed. Durning was present for the Battle of the Bulge, the German counter-offensive in December 1944. Five of his siblings died due to scarlet fever and smallpox, and much of his early life was spent in hardship. Steve Karras - who wrote the web2carz article - joined the discussion and provided additional data from his research. Michael Dorosh 14:48, 21 August 2006 (UTC), An editor made this edit that accuses Durning of exaggerating his military record. He was nominated for the Academy Award for Best Supporting Actor for both The Best Little Whorehouse in Texas (1982) and To Be or Not to Be (1983). He landed at D-Day, was in the Battle of the Bulge, and was part of the Malmady Massacre. Not even a Bronze Star, much less a Silver Star. Worse, the 398th's own regimental history of its participation in WWII has a list of all its medal awardees; Mr. Durning is not listed as earning any medal of any kind with that unit. The chest wound which earned him the Purple Heart prompted his evacuation to the United States for recovery where he spent the remainder of his time with the Army. He received two Drama Desk Awards for his performances in That Championship Season and Third. In addition to three Purple Heart medals for his wounds, Durning was presented the Silver Star for valor. --rogerd (talk) 02:58, 15 March 2008 (UTC), I had the priviledge and honor to meet Charles Durning some years ago, when I was on The Los Angeles St. Patrick's Day Committee, and we made him "Grand Marshall" for the parade in Hollywood. The Wikipedia discussion argues that because there is no documentation, and more importantly, because so many accounts of what happened at Malmady are embellished and inaccurate, that he should not be cited as a survivor of the incident. Durning appeared in more than 100 movies, in role Stetsonharry (talk) 22:26, 30 January 2009 (UTC), There was some discussion a few months ago about whether or not Durning was a survivor of the Malmedy massacre. With the 398th Infantry Regiment he moved into Germany where he was again seriously wounded in March 1945 and evacuated to the United States. Durning was a great actor. --Lebob-BE (talk) 20:11, 25 February 2009 (UTC), . Well I should maybe have taken part earlier to this discussion. Hand color tinted photo of Charles Durning. Part of the reason he was willing to talk may have been because I told him some of my fathers war experiences from the Bataan Death March in the Philippines. Records describe a badly wounded G.I with a severe concussion, multiple lacerations to the face, and fragmentation shrapnel wounds to the right frontal region of his head, left chest-wall, both legs, left foot, knee, fingers, and hands. in the Battle of the Bulge, he and the rest of his company were captured and forced to march through a pine forest at Malmedy, the scene of an infamous massacre in . 1923-02-28. Unfortunately, Harold Billow, the last known survivor of the WWII POW massacre, died at 99 on May 17, 2022. Again, Durning is not listed. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. We don't have to resolve the discrepancies, but we should at least note them. Both his war record and his acting career were mentioned. Copy. Prior to his acting career, Durning served in World War II and was decorated for valor in combat. Mr. Steve Karras, among other researchers, has accessed primary sources such as Durnings discharge papers, his medical records, unit personnel rosters and morning reports, Army General Orders, and other records, as well as secondary sources such as unit official histories, to assemble an accurate record of Durnings military experiences. A guy goes and risks his life for his country, performs incredibly heroic feats in war, and when he finally passes away, the main thing hes known for is play-acting movie characters ranging from a sketchy governor to a horny Nazi. I made the following changes: When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs. Along with films he appeared in, his collection consists mainly of films he admired as well as a small collection of family home movies. 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