I was around during Queendom for the durag situation but I don't see that a large issue as one of loves Rihanna wearing them and was selling them and promoting them to all races. Ive seen a lot of people (and even previously been them sometimes) throwing around the Siwon thing to say hes wildly homophobic, for example, when it turned out to be heavily unreliable and probably false. My mom would like to know #AskHwasa, is mama africa a good name for you? if(document.querySelector("#google_image_div")){ Fandom Name - Moomoo Sub-Unit - Mamamoo+ Japanese Website Twitter Japanese Twitter Instagram YouTube Japanese YouTube Fan Cafe Tiktok The K-POP idol's vocal talent is considered one of the best in the industry and yet, she continues to receive a great amount of . If you think ive missed anything please send me a message but dont forget to try to include a source! For a lot of other controversies in Korea (like addressing an older person informally), international fans may not understand those issues as well as Koreans and believe that it's no big deal. ", HELP THE QUESTIONS FOR #AskHwasa I CANT pic.twitter.com/hfqIr5fn9w, THE TWEETS UNDER THIS HASHTAG ARE RUTHLESS AHAJAKXH #AskHwasa pic.twitter.com/gEpnibGF9J, the gates of heaven are not opening for ANY of yall #AskHwasa, Baby Mia Jade Riley: Parents Lani and Tom Riley speak out after dog attack killed their 5-week-old infant, 'We have lots to reveal': Madeleine McCann lookalike Julia Wandelt posts footage of meeting with PI probing claims, Kyle Sambrook: Hiker falls 100ft to death while carrying his dog in one hand through 'appalling' weather, Killer mom Lindsay Clancy was suffering from drug withdrawal and had 'worst side effects,' says friend, Bruce Willis's mom Marlene 'not sure if her son still recognizes her' as 'aggressiveness' creeps in. Threads: 200. Each controversy mamamoo has had is different from the next, yet people will hold a grudge and use any excuse to keep hating them. Everyone, dont think of dirty thoughts!, negative comment about Taos skin being dark, cant be too chubby/fat and must have a nice body, He has darker skin than me, doesnt he?, in general, youre skin looks better if you have a lighter skin tone. Heechul put the scarf on his head as Gain was explaining why she chose to wear hers in a hijab style. My mom would like to know" while another asked, "Is mama Africa a good name for you? It has become commonplace to trash Mamamoo and Hwasa in particular, just another meme or joke to let slide. One user tweeted, "HELP I dont like Hwasa but some of yall going a little too far, some of yall preach mental health but pick and choose who that applies too. They have been affectionately dubbed festival queens as they attend a great many every year, always ready to hype up the crowd and turn every event into a Mamamoo concert. I did include apologies though, such as Shindongs, Kangins and Zhoumis. In this video, they wore blackface. ", which culture did u enjoy appropriaing the most #AskHwasapic.twitter.com/x6WYr2VeJa, Can we have a spoiler? It was laughable because a writer had a compilation of problematic things that idol groups did and you can very clearly see the double-standards people have for boy groups and girl groups (even the writer herself). Like everyone says here, it will never excuse their actions but if we can see them grow and learn from their mistakes I'll always be there to support them. One tweet asked, "What we feeling today -er or -a? I didnt really spend a huge amount of time on that Super Junior post and I didnt properly think about the way I was phrasing things, or the information I was including. when Lay said, When asked about his ideal type, said that she, He and Chen chose Kai and Tao as the members they wouldnt want to date if they were girls, when Chen was explaining why, Xiumin interrupted him and saidThey both have a similarity, theyre both tanned (, Posted a photograph of him in a face mask on Weibo and captioned it, Apparently there were some old online comments from Baekhyuns cyworld account where he called girls at his High School sluts but I cant find any screenshots, Chanyeol and Baekhyun apparently admitted to teasing the Chinese members at first for their pronunciation/korean and acted somewhat cold towards them, though I cannot find a source for this, Many people have said Chanyeol said his ideal type would have white/pale skin but I cant find a source on that so Im not sure, Some people have told me that Kris is sexist/misogynistic but I cant find anything about this online, I also vaguely remember seeing a picture of exo which one of the members wrote comments on and there was something about Kais skin being dark but I cant remember who it was (possibly Kai himself?) Im not sure anyone will read this post, Im not sure if any of the people upset by my actions will read it (because I doubt they are following this blog) but I felt like I owed everybody an apology. Press J to jump to the feed. Im simply complying a list of things that could be perceived as offensive or problematic so that fans can decide for themselves. I very strongly believe that people can change and one action doesnt define them for the rest of their life, and if I dont include an apology in a post, its always going to be because I didnt know they apologised. This brings us now to the true reason for this article. I never thought it would gain the traction that it did and I dont feel comfortable running it at the moment, Im sorry. I will definitely admit that it was very sloppy and not well researched. Im also scared of spreading misinformation and making mistakes (both of which are things I have done), and I dont like the idea of people feeling too intimidated to call me out when I mess up. In response to the criticisms of how I was presenting my information, they are valid criticisms. ; _____; aaaa. They make a difference. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Yes, we're all people, but idols are scrutinized for their every word and action, even much more so than non-celebrities). I feel like my SuJu MP wasnt anywhere near as thorough as the exo one because I have exams at the moment so I was unable to spend as much time on it, so Id really appreciate it if people sent me anything they think I missed. 4) I included the hijab thing for Heechul because I saw muslim fans point it out and say that it made them uncomfortable. As for the Kris thing, Im aware its Heechuls opinion, but considering Kris left for very valid reasons (and was practically being abused by SM, as it seems many of the Chinese members were) I would say that it could be consideredproblematic to call Kris disrespectful for leaving, especially after all the shit he got from fans and the members themselves. Again I apologise for any of the harm I have caused with this blog, it was definitely unintentional, but thats no excuse. JavaScript is disabled. Mamamoo - Solar. The group officially debuted with their single "Mr. Ambiguous" on June 18, 2014. Um yeah they are just that close that they make fun of each other. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. I'm not dismissing them or overlooking them, but I know that there was no ill intent in what they did and that they're doing their best. There are many areas where I am still ignorant and I think I have a bit of an issue with talking over people, a bad habit I really need to break. It then grew and grew until every day Mamamoo was receiving complaints about their dancing, calling their vocals fake, and most of all, attacking their looks and hygiene. This, combined with their Immortal Song wins, truly demonstrates just how much of an impact Mamamoo has, as their reach goes far beyond just kpop. Thanks for the reply! All this being said, Mamamoo is truly know, not as huge award/reality show winners, but as an idol group of the people. But what appears to be the root of people's unforgiving nature where Hwasa is concerned is that despite past apologies and promises to do better, the idol has continued to make mistakes in the form of cultural appropriation. Ngl I let out a couples laughs tho. Some people are a bit skeptic of whether or not I actually like Super Junior, which I can understand, but I would like to clarify that I do. Her confidence has grown through the years, due in part to her role models such as Beyonce and Rihanna, with Hwasa even saying in a now viral video Soon, I found myself promising this: If I dont fit into this generations standard of beauty, then I will have to become a different standard but prejudice based off looks has always been the sore button topic for her. Red Velvet too. We hope that you will help to educate us on these and other issues so that we can become better people and better artists.. Im not really sure what else to say, if anyone wants to talk to me about it, thats fine. While Mamamoo being popular with the public is widely known, many are unaware of just how many actors, idols, and senior producers they have won over with their authentic shows and cheery personalities. I did do that on my exo masterpost, but I also spent a lot more time and thought on that post as well. I just always feel the need to resolve something when I get into it and I could see where you were coming from (plus you made some valid criticisms) so I thought Id explain myself. But she probably could not have predicted that an #AskHwasa hashtag could have drawn out some of the worst Twitter drags in recent times. It's really difficult to see the hate towards these girls when I see how hard they had to struggle to climb up the ladder when they came from such a small company but I do believe they'll prevail and work hard to improve themselves as they've always been doing since 2014 . She embraces her skin and body, even though it doesn't fit neatly within traditional notions of what is considered 'ladylike' or 'beautiful' according to South Korean standards and prefers to pen songs about empowerment. This resulted in people calling her out as dressing like a black stereotype, and complaining that she was even wearing blackface again, despite the fact that she had no heavily darker makeup on, and was simply rocking her naturally darker skin. From my own judgement, the members seem like good, genuine people. Ive heard Moomoos are known as fairly passive, but its also why they are known as some of the most accepting and even better behaved fans. The environment that they grew up in is much different than ours; they're surrounded by customs and norms from their own society and culture. hitType: 'event', However it did look dumb not going to lie not a good look and hopes she does not it again. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. MAMAMOO's Hwasa is a cast member in the MBS reality show I live Alone (literal translation). 2. Please feel free to contact me if you think Im missing anything! Shaun of @shaun_vids on Twitter said recently in response to another girl's hate storm against her that mirrors the exact same patterns as Mamamoo's, If someone does something worthy of criticism, and that criticism is then directly delivered thousands of times by different people (a section of whom will go much too far and be genuinely abusive), it all just merges into abuse in the perception of the one being criticised.. Ive also seen Chanyeol and Baekhyun fans criticise them for the stuff theyve said/done, but move on and continue to be their fans, which is also a personal decision. its good(, When asked who their ideal types would be if the other members were girls, Chen chose Luhan and Chanyeol chose D.O and Lay then took the microphone to clarify that they were not gay by saying, A similar incident occurred at a concert(?) As Ive said before, Im not a muslim, and I was just going off of what Id seen other muslim bloggers say. eventCategory: event.slot.getSlotElementId(), omg lol at everything written under heechul. A lot seem to be taken out of context and exaggerated. ", The link includes the statements released on the group's behalf, most notably, their own apologies for their use of blackface which was released within four hours of the video going out. We have, arguably, a smaller fan base in a way - at least internationally - so its a little easier to see those hate thorns in-between the roses. A large section of the hate she receives is linked to the idol rarely conforming to what is typically expected of women in K-pop, particularly ones in girl groups. Contents 1 History 1.1 Pre-debut 1.2 2014: Debut with Hello, and Piano Man 1.3 2015: Pink Funky 1.4 2016: Melting, MOOSICAL and Memory 1.5 2017: MOOSICAL Curtain Call and Purple kpop groups; soloists; socials and info; Back; kpop groups. And yes I did make an exo masterpost, heres a link. People @Pr0blematicIdol follows or mentioned can reply Problematic Idols @Pr0blematicIdol Jan 3, 2021 Replying to @Pr0blematicIdol Im ironically bad at dealing with conflict, which might make some people question why I started this blog (it was actually an accident, long story), but Ive tried not to let it affect my running of this blog. Feb 22, 2023. But- and heres the but- not forgiving them is no excuse for repeated bullying, harassment, and worse. I found out that they did blackface which is disgusting and heartbreaking cause I really liked them so I stewed on it for a few days and looked again and found that they had apologised that same day 2x and that they also apologised in person the next day concert. document.querySelector("#adunit").addEventListener('click',function(){ also please read this before trying to contact me about any of this. ", #AskHwasa biggie or tupac? Their interactions with their fans and staff members are so sweet and genuine, and they do their best to be inclusive of everyone (like Wheein taking her time to speak to a deaf fan and doing some sign language, Hwasa going on the floor to sign a fan's cast---the list goes on). Feels bad yo. pic.twitter.com/d4GXcv4AIt, As more fans attempted to clear the hashtag and ask for others to be kind and consider the mental health of idols like Hwasa, some couldn't help but laugh at the questions being asked. I'm gonna keep following them and follow my own judgement. Yes I should have included more context. Hwasa is an idol who isn't afraid to be herself. Kpop music (as all music) is rightfully and obviously for everyone but i'm kinda surprised how big of a lesbian following kpop groups like mamamoo and dreamcatcher have and to some extent TXT, with other groups it doesnt seem to be that way. I dont properly feel as though I can talk about in depth because I have limited knowledge (which I probably should have specified in the post) but I didnt just pull it out of my ass, I included it because Id seen people get offended by it (though predominantly by Gain). Yet she's okay with that. kpop problematic carrd! One user shared, "HELP THE QUESTIONS FOR #AskHwasa I CANT," along with a screenshot of some of their favorites, another said, "THE TWEETS UNDER THIS HASHTAG ARE RUTHLESS AHAJAKXH," and one joked, "The gates of heaven are not opening for ANY of yall. },false) But i was told online that even after apologised that they did it again but I couldn't find anything that showed that the only thing I found was Solar doing a beggar impersonation SNL in 2016 but that's not blackface or colourism as I have seen people try to argue, as homeless do get dark or tanner as they are unable to clean themselves properly and are outside all the time. Mobile +91-9466446612, +91-9728497962; Email info@pvginternationals.com; wow tanaan jungle questline; small planet airlines fleet; you've got mail bookstore name Hwasa trolled for past racism as #AskHwasa trends, Internet asks which ethnicity she will 'offend' next. If you would not be able to handle it being done to you, dont do it to others, no matter how big or famous those other people are. They apologized. A subreddit for the four member kpop group, MAMAMOO! I suffer from lots of different mental health problems (I dont want to go too into detail but I have ADHD and also struggle with BPD, bipolar + other issues) and this blog really does not help. I can definitely understand where youre coming from and why you sounded defensive. As the n-word is decidedly not of Asian-country origins it would make sense that she would not know the meaning of a English word that she is quickly seeing and then singing in a song, as it is a word which takes most, if not all, of its derogatory meaning from American context. Joined: Sep 2021 #1. Probation Faker. I will try to work on this in the future because I dont want to portray idols as villains when theyre not actually responsible for what has happened (e.g. So I decided to forgive them cause myself personally thinks that they tried to show love to Bruno Mars which is apparently one of their fav artist by doing a vcr of their songs but stupidity and very ignorantly decided to dark their skin to match his and his dancers. Their sound is diverse, but can best be described as a mix between jazz, retro, and R&B. problematickpop:. Yes, I should have checked the links. People can and do change, me from two years ago was a huge mess of anti-social justiceness (somehow) and I used to despise blogs like the very one Im running right now. You are entitled to your own opinion, and if what Mamamoo has done is considered too ignorant or rude for you to support them anymore, that is 100% in your right to not excuse them for it. I hope everybody has a good day/night. Its much appreciated :-), Im KOREAN TOO, and shes lying, i will post a video with the REAL ONE and gonna call you out too.-. i love exo. }); Thank you~). The Official MAMAMOO 18+ Thread - The Bar (18+) - OneHallyu Hello everyone, in honor of MAMAMOOs super awesome comeback for their sassy title track, Um Ah Oh Yeh, from their Pinky Funky mini album, I have decided to create a 18+ thread for the sexy ladies of MAMAMOO. Offensive Super Junior Masterpost. You need to Register or Login to view the content. With reference to the Baekhyun-autism-comment issue, it has been a topic of much debate as many people have said that the korean word for autistic is similar to the korean word for defeated-i want to clarify that i do not speak korean so i cannot judge this myself-and that it was just a mistranslation. In the boy groups section, there are fans defending them for everything and even saying things like, "Come back when ___(male idols)__ abuse people, then we'll talk about them being 'problematic'." Yes, I should have included more info and specified where I wasnt knowledgable. What are your thoughts? Its so sad because I love them and hope they grow more internationally. I like most of the members included in that post, please dont try to make it out like I dont, because it perpetuates the idea that fans cant criticise the things they love. The world doesnt revolve around America and our issues, not everyone has their eyes on America 24/7. So girls have to be skinny and boys can be Taken aback by their remarks, Shindong quickly explained, Im just saying. I will put just a fraction of some of the hate comments they receive every day down below. As I am not muslim (and Im not sure if you are or not) I feel as though its not really up for me to say whether or not its offensive ora reach. I was enjoying binging 4 years worth of missed content from them but I guess it's inevitable that I stumbled on their controversies and I'll admit it hurt to read so many people hate on them since I was with them when they debut and immediately fell in love. Firstly, Im fairly sure I missed stuff, but also, a lot of it is somewhat interpretational. eventAction: 'view' Anyway, just my thoughts. From their raunchy and raw fashion choices to wearing blackface to sing Bruno Mars - let's look back at the highs and the lows as the outspoken quartet celebrate their 6th anniversary as a band okay so somebody sent me a link to the video (thank you btw!) The ring around her mouth: Now a ring around someones mouth was something drawn back in the days of blackface to emphasize big lips. They received their first music show win in 2016 with Youre The Best and have since gone on to win dozens more, ending 2019 with a combined total of 41 music show wins, making them one of the most highest winning girl groups in history. And then later on she includes a list of problematic things that her favourite (boy) group has done and it's literally 3x as long. I didnt mean for this to spiral into an argument at all and I didnt post the post with malicious intent, though I know the intent doesnt matter all that much and that I did make mistakes. 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