No, there is little if any chance "any" parts you currently see, other than springs, that would work in an ASM. Bidding begins to close at 5pm CDT/6pmEST, Auction Preview: December 21st-26th 9am-5pm and December 28th-30th 9-5pm A fine 18K white gold automatic chronograph wristwatch Model: Cosmograph Daytona Reference: 116519 Date: Circa 2006 Movement: 44-jewel Cal.4130 automatic, free-sprung Gyromax Microstella balanc, Rolex. the exact model and condition, they range from $125 and up. This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies. By using this site, you agree to our Terms of Use. Neither Kraft Auction Service LLC. The fact they are consecutive numbers may add a little value. 16520, CIRCA 2007 Movement :Automatic, cal. Credit card on file will be run immediately after the auction for invoices totaling under $2500. Jonathan Kraft AU10500173 Not responsible for accidents or items after sold. 155MM HE 107 Full Zone 8 Charge with Electronic Fuze MOWREY 58 CAL BLACK POWDER PERCUSSION MUSKET, #2480. One, an 1851 clone was built of the same parts produced by Uberti when they built the Colt "2nd Gen" percussion revolvers. That's your build date. I have an ASM made, Cimarron marked, 1860 Richards. The only real lemon was an ASM. For all practical purposes, the import of Italian replica cartridge sixguns started in 1962. to hold the defaulting buyer liable for the total amount due and to begin legal proceedings for its recovery together with interest, legal fees and costs to the fullest extent permitted under applicable law The owner was very knowledgeable about his business. I've heard the stories of ASM's being of poor quality, however these two .45's are very nice. List them and see what happens. With respect to lots that are offered without reserve, unless there are already competing bids, the auctioneer, in his or her discretion, will generally open the bidding at half of the low estimate for the lot. ASM BLACK POWDER ONLY, 44CAL PISTOL - MADE IN ITALY, TRAUITHUS #0629 IN CASE. Home delivery is also available at an additional cost to the buyer. Grand Army /Frontier Armi San Marco Black Powder Revolvers Expand/Collapse All Categories 1847 Walker 1848 Baby Dragoon 1849 Pocket 1851 Navy Regulator 1873 Remington 1858 Army & Navy Schematic Numrich Gun Parts Corporation 226 Williams Ln. Pick Up Will be Available at Our Kraft Facility in Valparaiso ASM Black Powder .44 Cal Revolver. Surface detractions are minimal, only faint amounts of toning on the trigger and hammer sides, and faint inconspicuous freckling on the blue. Buy ASM BLACK POWDER 44 WITH HOLSTER: GunBroker is the largest seller of Revolvers Pistols Guns & Firearms All: 970364841. But, since we don't spin in SASS, it's not a problem I worry about. All you have to do is go inside of a gun made by them and you will see how bad it is. They now make a 92 rifles, but it does function better than the old ASM 92's. By bidding at auction you agree to be bound by these Conditions of Sale. has received all funds due to us, the buyer shall collect purchased lots on the posted pick-up days from the auction. in Italy since 1950, regardless of type, receive the first stamping. View Item in Catalog Lot #216 (Sale Order . firearm stores. Top is labeled "Navy Arms Ridgefield nj." Bottom side has a six digit number "1001XX". 3.96 16/1860 161860 Black Dial Men's Watch, Art Deco Sterling Mounted Guilloche Enamel Powder Jar, Christian Bag Dior Diorissimo Mini Pink Pebbled Calfskin Leather Tote Bag B521, This site is protected by reCAPTCHA and the Google. FFL Required for Transfer. 7% Indiana Sales Tax. a handling charge of $50 for any check dishonored by the drawee. $30.00 . Not responsible for accidents or items after sold. expressly reserves the right to reproduce any image of the lots sold in the catalogue. There should also be a rollmarked A.S.M. The Armi San Marco brand is not as highly valued as the Uberti can also search the archives and or sold items to get an idea of and its consignor(s) make no warranty or representation, express or implied, that the purchaser will acquire any copyright or reproduction rights to any lot sold. Serial number 09485. ASM Remington 1858 New Army .44 Cal Brass Black Powder six shooter Made in Italy copy. Armi San Marco and Armi Sport now Chiappa are two different companies. Take that, and cross reference it the list below. Barrel is Octagonal, 1/4 inch across the flats, 7 1/2 inch with 7 groove left hand 1:36 rifling. The credit card on file will be run immediately after the sale is concluded. How would I go about selling them? The auctioneer has the right at his or her absolute and sole discretion to refuse any bid, to advance the bidding in such a manner as he or she may decide, to withdraw any lot, and in the case of error or dispute, and whether during or after the sale, to determine the successful bidder, to continue the bidding, to cancel the sale or to reoffer and resell the item in dispute. No statement, whether written or oral, and whether made in the catalogue, or in supplements to the catalogue, an advertisement, a bill of sale, a salesroom posting or announcement, the remarks of an auctioneer, or otherwise, shall be deemed to create any warranty, representation or assumption of liability. I was told by the Chiappa folks, they changed the Armi Sport name to Chiappa because of this confusion. Trigger pulls at an exceptionally light 1 1/4 pounds with no felt creep. is not responsible for the correctness of any statement of any kind concerning any lot, whether written or oral, nor for any other errors or omissions in description or for any faults or defects in any lot. I shot them for five years until I got my Colts and they worked fine. ASM was so bad, even ASM parts seldom fit. I was told a few years back that the other gun makers in Italy approached them and requested that they work harder on the craftsmanship as they were giving the Italian gun makers a bad name. The man of many Colts (Fingers) hit the price line pretty damn close. It was a good gun but it went down the road in a swap as I don't care for the grip frame on the Remingtons. Kraft Auction Service LLC shall have no liability for any damage to property left on its premises for more than the stated pick-up days following the sale. 1860 REPRODUCTION WAS MADE IN ITALY. . ASM are not the best in the world they've had problems with soft internals. engraved with a Indian and Texas Rangers scene. I was unable to add your email address to the email list. Terms: 13% buyer's premium. Table 1 shows recommended charges for CVA revolvers only. Replica Arms was the first importer for ASM revolvers, the first being the 1847 Walker. See Sold Price. Flag item for content or copyright Similar Items ASM .44 Caliber Black Powder Revolver, Made In Italy, Engraved Cylinder, If we do not receive payment in full, in good cleared funds, within 24 hours following the sale, we are entitled in our absolute discretion to exercise one or more of the following measures, in addition to any additional actions available to us by law: All firearms produced in Italy since 1950, regardless of type, receive the first stamping. Nice nickel plated 50 caliber black powder cannon made in Spain by Ardesa. A lot of their workers did not want to move out of town where all the gun makers were located, so ASM lost a lot of their talent which started their quality problems. It could not be made to run. Some lots in the sale are subject to a reserve which is the confidential minimum price below which such lot will not be sold. I haven't had a lick of trouble out of it, other than losing the ejector housing screw. Both sets of these .38 revolvers seem just a bit smaller in the grips and frames than the ASM .45's. Colt's have firing pin/recoil bushing and hardened pressed in bolt cams. Regulators. Armi San Marco was a family owned gun maker in Brescia, Italy. .31 Cal Single Shot Brass Italian Derringer - 9603418 I don't know if the frame is steel or brass, how do you tell? Colt 1851 Navy 36 Cal Black Powder Only Durys # 4759. Details; Terms; Directions; . I have a pair of ASM-made and marked, EMF Hartford Colt reproduction revolvers in .45 Colt, 5 1/2" barrels. Buying firearms and related items for other people can result in felony charges. This was sold and moved to Marietta, OH., and then, in around 1973, was sold to Navy Arms. Claimed copyright infringement. and Black Powder only Cal.44 made in Italy. I purchased it new from EMF in 1986. I have a 3rd Model Dragoon 1851, markings on the barrel say "<>Gardone V.T.- Brescia" and "Cal 44 Black Powder Only Made In Italy" It does not have the slots for attaching a stock because at the time it was made the BATF rules for the stock were in doubt. to impose a late charge of one and a half percent (1.5%) per thirty (30) days of the total purchase price 44 inches x 18 inches x 27 inches, Wrought Iron Black Powder Coated Fire Place Screen. Cylinder capacity is 6 rounds of .451, .454, or .457 diameter round balls or similar size conical projectile. Any items not picked up on those days, will automatically be forfeited. Guns Over 2000 Lots of 40+ Guns, Coins, Vintage Advertising, Antiques, Tools, Equipment, New Building Supplies & Much More!! Discretion They were in a nut shell, junk. The bottom of the cylinders are still shiny. How we protect your privacy I had a few ASMs in the very early days. the east coast. Pistol is chambered for a .44 caliber black powder load. Powered by Invision Community. We do not recommend firing any heavy loads in a brass frame .44, anywhere from 15 to 22 grains. On the cylinder is PATENT N.All help is appreciated. Chambering is .44 Black Powder caliber, uses black powder or credible substitutes like Pyrodex. very good grips, 7.5'' barrel, Pietta 1851 Navy .44 caliber black powder 6 shot revolver. Guns tend to have some regional value too, say a Thompson Center Larry Fisher - 574-298-8909, Auction Terms & Conditions Auction Terms & Conditions Auction Terms & Conditions General Terms: Cash, all major credit cards, or good check with positive ID. While the Colt has been called the Peacemaker forever, I don't think Colt ever used the name. Western Pennsylvania, Keystone of Freedom, CAS, Fine Wood Working, Toggle Link Rifle Tuner , SA Tuner, Casting, Reloading, Firing Black Powder guns ), Muzzleloading Modern & Replica Pistols (flint), Muzzleloading Modern & Replica Pistols (perc), United States Patent Firearms Revolvers/Pistols, Century Arms International (CAI) - Shotguns. Were offering this one, however, for only $ 139.00. Campfire Tracker. Actually it was because of the pony on the grips AND the name, Colt won the lawsuit. Virtual Preview on Kraft Auction Facebook Page: December 28th 4pm-5pm reserves the right to hold merchandise purchased by personal check until the check has cleared the bank. If any dispute arises after the sale, our sale record is conclusive. Pistol is chambered for a .44 caliber black powder load. 44 MADE IN ITALY) . 800+ Lots of Equipment including Tractors, Forklifts, Mini-Excavator, Trucks, Trailers, Hay Equipment, Livestock Equipment, Lawn Tractors, Construction Equipment and More! This is a modern, working reproduction built in Italy by Armi San Marco (A.S.M.) All the original paperwork is from E.M.F. Derringer Black Powder Handgun, Two Antique Wood & Metal Toy Black Powder Guns, Pair of Fase (Spain) Cantilever Desk Lamps, CHANEL - 1998 98P - Karl Lagerfeld Skirt Crop Top Set - White/ Black - 44 US 12, VALENTINO GARAVANI Shoes (Other) Black 44(about 29cm), CHANEL 95A #44 CC Logos Button Double Breasted Long Sleeve Jacket Black, CHANEL - 08A Fall 2008 - Pointelle Knit Off Shoulder Dress - Black - FR 44 US 12, GOLDEN TEAK CRYSTAL MATTE BLACK FOYER LIVING DINING ROOM CHANDELIER 33 LIGHT 44", Fendi Black Grained Leather FF Motif Belt, Chopard K18PG LUC 1860 Cal. BEFORE THE SALE BLACK POWDER ONLY CAL 44 MADE IN ITALY on the lower right side of the barrel above the load lever. ASM was one of the first Italian manufacturers back in 1960 along with Uberti. When Puma started having the 92's made by them instead of Rossi in Brazil, they increased the prices but not the workmanship. Comes as pictured with NO accessories. For property that is not picked up after thirty (30) calendar days, an additional administration fee of $75 will be charged. Antique Wood 7-Drawer Printers File Cabinet. We may require bank or other financial references. Pietta Model 1851 Navy .44 Cal Unbox | Cabelas Black Powder Revolver Fix It Now 59.9K subscribers Subscribe 90K views 9 years ago Here is an un-boxing of the popular Pietta 1851 .44 Cal. Later David. Both can be fixed just like Colt fixed them in the day. Stainles Steel a little more. Replacement price on this revolver is upwards of $300 in our area. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. (No, I didn't win it my son beat me in the shoot-off. Colt Lightning Medium Frame 44/40 Pump Rifle. If we receive written bids on a particular lot for identical amounts, and these are the highest bids on the lot at the auction, it will be sold to the person whose written bid was received and accepted first. 2022 Pritzker Military Museum & Library. They moved the factory from where all the other factories are to a more remote area and some of the workers didn't want to leave their home so they lost a lot of expertise. The right rear of the barrels are marked with two Italian proof marks. All items must be removed by January 2nd 2pm after the sale unless other arrangements are made. WOW , thanks for the history , I do see parts ,lighter springs even cylinders for these guns BUT not with the ASM manufacture ,parts are crossed to gun type like "1851 navy" ,would one say theres a strong chance they would work in ASM brand "1851 navy" ? i took it apart & cleaned it up. Not responsible for accidents or items after sold. Steel frame with consecutive serial numbers, manufactured in 1982. details in the search and see what is selling and for how much. I am trying to figure out how to upload photos. Date based on Italian date code stamped on under side of the frame. You have the names confused. It has blondish colored Italian hardwood grip panels. dry well before oiling. Used New; Trade In: $178.44: $186.02: Private Party: $274.52: $286.19: View Data View Sold. 219-973-9240 ~ Info@KraftAuctions.com THE BUTT HAS A SERIAL NUMBER E45436 IT DOESNT SAY WHO MAKES IT IT DOES HAVE SOME MARKS ON THE BOTTOM IN FRONT OF THE TRIGGER (BH , PN WITH A STAR ABOVE IT AND TWO CROSSED GUNS WITH A STAR ABOVE IT. Grip and frame finish are consumer finished. When making a bid, a bidder is accepting personal liability to pay the purchase price, including the buyer's premium, all applicable taxes and all other applicable charges, unless it has been explicitly agreed upon in writing with Kraft Auction Service LLC before the commencement of the sale that the bidder is acting as agent on behalf of an identified third party acceptable to Kraft Auction Service LLC., and that Kraft Auction Service LLC. Yep 1860 Armys in really nice shape. The metal spring that is in the hand grip is broken. CALIBER AND REVOLVER TYPE.31 caliber Colt and Remington.36 caliber Colt.44 caliber Colt and Remington.44 caliber Colt Walker and 3rd . If for any reason a purchased lot cannot be delivered in the same condition as at the time of sale, or should any purchased lot be stolen, mis-delivered or lost prior to delivery, Kraft Auction Service LLC. All wood with plank construction. Steel frame with consecutive serial numbers, manufactured in 1982. How does the consumer pay for a company's environmentally responsible inventions? But the best Items under $1,000 are collated upon request. IT IS SERIAL # A40841. In the case of a tie bid, the winning bidder will determined by the auctioneer at his or her sole discretion. HAMILTON, 14K YELLOW GOLD OPEN FACE POCKET WATCH 44.00 mm case diameter, matte silvered dial, black Arabic numerals, subdial for seconds at 6 o'clock, stem wound and set Cal. I have replacements now, but I keep it around as a back-up. All items are sold as-is. What I do know, Italian made .44 Cal BP revolver (6 shot), bought from Cabela's around 1996. I have had good service from two ASM 1858 Remington clones. Day 2 - Wednesday December 30th Their SAA's are a good example. #44 Black Powder CVA 45 Caliber Kentucky Rifle Steel Nose Cap Screws (Unused) $4.41. In the absence of a bid at that level, the auctioneer may proceed backwards at his or her discretion until a bid is recognized, and then continue up from that amount. You If any dispute arises after the sale, the Kraft Auction Service LLC. # 49909 Items in the Price Guide are obtained exclusively from licensors and partners solely for our members' research needs. This is an unusual brass single shot, .31 caliber, in-line, black powder percussion Derringer. IT IS IN VERY GOOD CONDITION WITH EXCELLENT BORE, CYLINDERS,AND WOOD. Thanks to everyone I now have some knowledge about the guns. Please refer to the photographs of this item when assessing its condition. 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